The Persian Race or the "Iranian Race"

Sunday, October 23, 2005

Are Azeris Persians?

Are Azeris Persians?: The Azeri nationalist claim that Azeris are Persians but speak Turkish language. They also claim that they originate from Medes.

There are two problems with this theory. First the Azeris do not look like Persians or Kurds. Secondly, the seljuck Turks who are the ancestors of Azeris ruled over the whole Persia. Why the rest of Iran not speaking Azeri language if they impose it on Persia? Why Kurds are not speaking Azeri language?

The remnants of Talish persian speaking minority in Azerbaijan is precisely the proof that Seljuk Turks did not impose Azeri language. Of course those who had Azeri language as their native language spoke Azeri not because it was imposed, but because it was their native language. Not only Seljuk Turks did not impose Azeri language but they even adopted Persian language is the language of the Elite of Seljuks.

I was following a discussion on the Origin of Azeris. Many Iranian Azeris in Iran claim that they only speak a turkish language but they are ethnically Persian. Also Azeri nationalist try to underestimate the number of Iranian Azeris. They claim that Azeris are moving into Persian areas and Azeris are decreasing in number. He further claimed that Azeris are no more than 18 million in Iran. Officially Azeris are 24 million. But the true figure is around 40 million. Somebody estimated that the number of Azeris with mixed persian heritage is not more than 2 to 3 million people. Azeri nationalist claim that most Azeris are partly Persian or they are turkic speaking Persians. Also Azeri nationalist claim Tehran is 20 million in population. The real figure is 12 million people.

But the most interesting exchange was this between a Turk from Turkey and an Iranian Azeri:

Iranian Azeri
Remember Turkic peoples are non-turks who speak or adopted Turkish language and are not ethnically Turks.

Turk from Turkey:
You drive me crazy with such nonsens!!
Böyle piçleri hala ne konusturuyon burda seko??!!
Let me say something to you, you will never ever gonna be an ayran or aryan because "AZERI's ARENT ARYANS"

7 Comments:

At 2:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a small number of original Turks (the Kazak tribe), the rest are mixture of other ethnicities (if am not mistaken there are approx 49), so how could all the existing Turks be Turk? The physical apparence also does not prove the "turkishness". In a way, it is like the case of USA, no one is really American - everyone is American (exept the native ones). So, what I am trying to say that one should not mix the two conepts, the ethnicity and nation.
The same is with Azeri's in Iran. How could someone speak turkish and claim to be Persian???

 
At 1:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what is exactly your problem dude!

I really don't get it!

 
At 5:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Afghan-Iranian race? LOL what the devil are you talking about? dude, Afghans are like Indonesians and Chinese, Persians are Aryans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race , if you really think otherwise, edit that page.

 
At 7:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is your brain distorted and twisted at birth?

 
At 7:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The word "Azerbaijan" is a Persian
word meaning "land of fire"
So how can Azeri be a race?
Azerbaijan has always been a region of greater Persia end of story!
We all know the country of Azerbaijan was created by the communist party and most of it's territory was given to them by Stalin to get Atatturk to join the soviet union!This is the truth End of story

 
At 6:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey dude! I am Azerbaijani and I consider myself Caucasian as well. We are not Persian and have never been. We are the descendants of Caucasian Albanians. Medes, Massagets and later Oguz, Bayat, Seljug and Altay turks. And none of above mentioned people were Persians. Though they have always tried to persify us. And Azerbaijan has not been part of greater iran. As a matter of fact it was Seljug turks who ruled Persia. Read the real history

 
At 3:10 AM, Anonymous Ruslan said...

Kazakh's and turkmens live Just across 300km east of Azerbaijan . Coastlines have very identical climate. Why don't they look identical? Azerbaijan is not persian, becuase it's population is not some fucking tropical brown people. Just google ilham aliyev Iranians LOL,just google "Cyrus The Great" if it's not hooked then what is it? . How tf Azerbaijan have more Western Asian, North Caucasian DNA than anything else ? Azeris do not look Persian and Kurdish because we are not Mesopotamian. We're not hairy as fuck, as they do. Unibrow is not common here as down there. We are descendants of proto-Caucasian people, just like North Caucasians and Georgians. Here we have many phenotypes. Here's just some random event photography... I assueme by location of publishes it come's from place where infested with anti-azerbaijani unibrow araratians.

http://www.instapuma.com/mehdiyev_photography

 

Post a Comment

<< Home